Beach attacks kept quiet

Three people have been attacked in two separate incidents within the past month in different areas of Grand Cayman’s Seven Mile Beach, the Caymanian Compass has confirmed.  

The attacks were not proactively reported by the Royal Cayman Islands Police Service, although police did provide some brief information to the newspaper regarding one incident that happened early New Year’s Day.  

In both instances, the one on New Year’s Day and the other on 9 December, the victims came forward and told their stories. An arrest has been made in connection with the 9 December attack; there’s been no word yet on any arrests for the New Year’s Day incident.  

For Caroline Lackey and Brian Burkholder, New Year’s 2013 turned from a party to a nightmare within the space of a few minutes.  

The married couple said they were returning home to the Cayman Reef complex on the southern end of Seven Mile Beach around 3.45am on 1 January.  

“We were just coming back from our friend’s party and we were cutting through Seagull [next door to the Cayman Reef] and there was a picnic table stacked with coolers and alcohol and everything else,” Ms Lackey said. “We saw a couple of people still milling about and we just figured they were part of that party. We just said ‘Happy New Year’ and I actually might have given one of them a hug … as you would think that would be appropriate on New Year’s.”  

In retrospect, Ms Lackey said that was probably a bad idea because the group of three men refused to leave her and her husband alone.  

“One of the guys started pulling me back against him, it obviously wasn’t appropriate,” Ms Lackey said. “I tried to jokingly … pass it off as ‘maybe he’s had too much to drink’. But it got out of hand when he put my hand on his groin.”  

Mr. Burkholder said he asked the man to back off his wife and picked up his phone to call 911. One of the suspects slapped it out of his hand, he said. At that stage, things got more out of control.  

Ms Lackey said she didn’t want the three to know where she and her husband lived, so she sat down on the seawall just in front of her apartment. Two of the three suspects sat down on either side of her.  

“Brian kept saying to me ‘just get in the condo, Carrie, just get in the condo,’” she said. “But I didn’t want them to know where we lived. I sat down on the seawall outside of our condo and started saying ‘guys can you just not chill’? The two guys sat down with me on either side. I looked at the third guy and said ‘can you not do something to calm your friends down’? And I believe his words were ‘I’m just standing here to see who’s going to throw the first punch’.”  

At this point, Mr. Burkholder said he pulled his wife into condo through the beach-front door. “The second guy basically grabbed me in the midriff and tried to pull me back out … so it was kind of a tug of war,” Ms Lackey said. “We both realised it had escalated out of control. Both of us were trying to get into the condo and get the door closed. 

“One guy put his arms through the door and punched Brian in the face five times. It was like one of those episodes from the movies where they drop the keys right at the door. We couldn’t get it closed.” 

The couple finally lost the battle to get the door closed and Mr. Burkholder said he retreated inside to get a knife. That’s when the three men apparently decided they’d had enough and ran away.  

“They saw a couple, vulnerable; you had one guy that’s trying to feel me up, the other guy saying ‘well, aren’t you going to do anything to protect your woman?’ and the third guy saying ‘who’s going to throw the first punch?’” Ms Lackey said.  

Mr. Burkholder believes much worse could have come of it: “If they had beaten the crap out of me and had her alone? I don’t know.” “They looked like they were at the party and it was sort of like neighbour-to-neighbour, Happy New Year,” Ms Lackey said. “Do we not say anything to anyone ever again? Maybe if I hadn’t been so bloody friendly, none of this would have happened.”  

The evening of 9 December, Jessica Roberts pulled up to Calico Jack’s bar on the northern end of Seven Mile Beach to have a drink.  

Problem was, no one was at the bar. Instead, there were a bunch of people standing on the beach and yelling.  

Ms Roberts said she assumed some sort of fight was going on and someone was yelling to call 911, so she ran up to West Bay Road just in front of the bar and did so.  

While on the phone, Ms Roberts noted someone from the corner of her eye walking up the beach and then again down the beach keeping in her general vicinity. She got the idea he had been involved in the bust-up, but wasn’t certain.  

“I called 911 … and as I turned around, he was running at me and grabbed my bag,” she said.  

The guy got away with it and ran off south down the darkened beach. Ms Roberts ran after him.  

In hindsight, the Canadian national admits it probably wasn’t the wisest decision. However, there was one thing in Ms Roberts’ favour; she’s a certified Krav Maga instructor. Krav Maga is a brutal form of martial arts that focuses on incapacitating opponents as quickly as possible.  

“I was thinking some punk took my bag and wanted to get it back,” Ms Roberts said. “I wasn’t thinking ‘psycho with weapon’.”  

At the edge of the Surfside Bar property, just south of Calico’s, the robber stopped and turned to face Ms Roberts.  

“I was like ‘please give me my stuff back’,” she said. “I begged him for a while. He eventually dropped [the bag] in front of him. I don’t know if he just dropped it or if he was giving it back to me. I picked it up and grabbed my wallet and I grabbed the money out of it and said ‘here, take this and turn around. Please take the money and go away.’”  

Unbelievably, the would-be robber took this opportunity to attack Ms Roberts.  

“He put the money into his pocket and he goes ‘and now you’re dead girl’ … and that’s when I noticed he had something in his hand. He started stabbing and stabbing and stabbing at me,” she said. “I blocked it and punched him in the throat a couple of times and stunned him and we were both standing waiting for the other person to do something. Then he came at me again and started stabbing and stabbing and I blocked him and punched him and kicked him, then he got discouraged I guess. He turned, I think he turned to run, but as soon as he turned his head I turned around and ran.” 

Ms Roberts took some damage herself in the fight. Two puncture wounds from a screwdriver, one jab was blocked by her hip bone on the right side, the other jab narrowly missed her liver. She realises today that she’s been extremely lucky.  

“I’m very grateful that it happened to me and not someone else,” she said.  

Since the attack, Ms Roberts has been informed that a suspect has been arrested in connection with the incident. At press time, he had not been charged. 


  1. And still you stupid people say Low Crime Rate in Paradiseanyone with half a brain can see this Island is no longer safe for tourist or residents and has not been for a while ! At one point only locals were being targeted but now everyone is at risk ,when are the RCIPS going to man up and deal with these cases seriously or does there have to be some deaths first….soon come

  2. This story makes me want to barf. When a small tropical paradise is plagued with dumb decision making politicians, muggers, robbers and thieves, even a balanced budget won’t get us out of the hole.

  3. But truth be told. Her first mistake was appearing intoxicated by yelling happy new year to complete strangers. Who does this, unless you are around a bunch of people. Not alone with one other person, away from the group. When the group your appearing vulnerable to, out numbers you.

    ALWAYS size up the situation.

    And in that situation. My wife would not have appeared like a drunk, yelling happy new year at strangers. I would have said nothing. Continued to our room. With my wife. And I am more than sure, nothing would have happened.

    The perps would not have thought I was such an easy target.

    These kinds of people, go after easy targets.

    I have been to some of the scummiest places on earth. And I have not had one incident. Because my first rule is, never appear vulnerable. In any situation. Always size up where you are at all times.

    The world isn’t a happy shiny place, with purple unicorns. And these people found that out. I can bet she never yells happy near year, in a vulnerable area, to complete strangers again.

    Lesson learned.

  4. What other attacks have been kept Quiet? This puts many in danger if the Police are hiding the facts about attacks on 7 mile beach.This should always be public information !

  5. When the general public becomes aware of who, in high places of control of our national security, is invested in certain security based businesses, you will not be shocked to know why this crime situation is being allowed to escalate. Crime DOES pay, my friends…if your in the business of providing security, it pays VERY WELL, indeed..

  6. Cozumel, armed police and military on the streets and beach. We felt safe.

    Puerto Rico, armed police and military on the the streets and beach. We felt safe.

    Cayman next?

    Visited all three last year, only in Cayman was there crime where we were staying on SMB. We no longer felt safe there.

    Time for Cayman to make a change and show protection on their beaches and streets. Tourists want to feel safe where they visit and spend their hard-earned money!

  7. Why does everyone blame the police when crime is committed.It is not their fault but they have to some how clear it up. The issue is with the residents of this island that turn a blind eye to crime until it affects them either directly or in this case indirectly by affecting our tourism product. It time to wake up and make crime everyone responsibility because if everyone was on the look out then these scum would have not were to hide and would be reported.

    Sadly as long as someone can get a ‘good deal’ here for them self then they don’t care what crime was committed to achieve this and it is institutional from petty crime to public service and upwards. There are laws in this country but it seems only the police enforce them while others bury their heads in the sand.

  8. Incident 1

    Mr. Burkholder believes much worse could have come of it: If they had beaten the crap out of me and had her alone? I don’t know. They looked like they were at the party and it was sort of like neighbour-to-neighbour, Happy New Year, Ms Lackey said. Do we not say anything to anyone ever again? Maybe if I hadn’t been so bloody friendly, none of this would have happened.

    Well, he doesn’t need a lecture to know what they’ve done wrong; he’s said it himself.

    People on holiday need to realise that that is no excuse to let their guard down and do things that they normally wouldn’t do at home…lesson learned.

    Incident 2

    Thank your krav maga training and skills for saving your life, girl…and practice that throat punch on your training bag a little more…its meant to put them out of the fight immediately…in combination with effective kicks.

    You hadn’t kicked him properly either… that would have saved having to block the screwdriver so many times.

    Only brutally applied martial arts techniques will stop real, life-or-death attacks.

    I’ve proved this over and over again enough times to have a valid opinion.

    Yours simply wasn’t brutal and effective enough to stop him the first time.

    Lesson learned.

  9. Big Berd has a point, but it just solidifies that fact that the days of Cayman being a safe haven are long gone. Not even in the high rent district can you believe for a minute that you’re not being prayed on. Caymanians always try to make it seem that Cayman is so different than the rest of the world when it comes to crime but the rate of crime per capita in Cayman is higher than most cities in New Jersey and the word has spread, just look at Travel Sites like Trip Advisor there are warnings about Cayman just like Jamaica.

    The Police may keep it quiet but these folks come home and start posting their experiences on Facebook Trip Advisor and all types of websites. So it’s not as quite as people like to think.

    Cayman seems to think this whole unarmed Cop idea is good for the country but all it does is make the people and visitors feel insecure while the bad guys all feel safe.

  10. The police didn’t report the Cayman Reef story because they didn’t believe it. The Compass shouldn’t either. There were witnesses to this event that tell a different story.

    Editor’s note: According to a police statement on the incident: ‘The circumstances were that a man and a woman were on the beach. The man got into an altercation with three other males, two of whom assaulted him (minor injuries) and damaged his cellphone. The incident is being investigated by GT uniform officers.’

    That doesn’t sound like the police ‘disbelieved the story’ to us, sorry.

  11. Unless this sort of thing is kept in check and right now, bend over and kiss your tourism (expletive) goodbye. The time to thnik we live in paradise is over.I also doubt that tourists are the criminals.

  12. The first time we visited GC in 1989 it was so beautiful and I felt so very safe that my husband and I invested in a time share at Morritt’s soon after. Back then, the island boasted of 100% employment and virtually no crime. A woman could walk anywhere on the island at any time and be safe. If you were not a citizen and broke the rules you were immediately deported. Even hitchhiking was not allowed.

    Back then Cayman was very selective about allowing citizenship. Then the Progressives took charge of the government, gave amnesty to a bunch of workers from other islands without regard to their personal behavior and now Cayman is experiencing the same problems as other countries.

    What a disappointment to see what was once a beautiful haven of safety becoming like most other island in the Caribbean.

  13. False advertising – ‘Cayman is a safe Caribbean holiday destination’.

    Visitors drop their guard when they come here, they have been told they are safe here in Cayman – a friendly moment turns into a nightmare. If they knew the dangers here, would they walk the beach at night, talk to strangers – NO they would not! (most likely as they wouldn’t come here to begin with)

    Attacks against visitors need stronger laws – double the punishments, minimum 5 years in prison etc. If you are a visitor and commit a crime here, same applies – no sending you back to your island home or city life with a mere slap on the wrist – send them to the Jamaican or UK prisons where you really serve your time!

  14. Easy job for the police. What happen to undercover cops. The police Force here is learning absolutely nothing beside chasing down people for a stick of ganja. Do something ans stop these crimes on the beach. Put you must beautiful women officers in bikini on the beach for a few days. What is wrong with you police anyway. Come out of the cars and get in some small clothes and solve crimes.

  15. @hunter and Louise, Indeed there was a time when cayman was the envy of the Caribbean and if i may venture to say, the world in terms of safety, but that is a bygone era. I will venture to say that, indeed there was a tendency to hide the fact that crimes were on the increase and there was a calculated effort to hide the figures so as not to frighten away the tourists. Fast forward to the 21st century and the worldwide web where information is almost instantaneous ,it is futile and wrong to hide things that affect the public generally. If the Information Service or the police hide the facts from the public, this would be a retrograde step back to a past era. Freedom of information and the right
    to know know is of paramount importance these days. This is crucial for the public to take measures to protect themselves. It is to be noticed that while we used to broadcast news of crimes in surrounding islands on our news papers front pages, our own skeletons were hidden in our proverbial closet. Gladly we have now mature and recognize that public information is vital in today’s society. It is wrong to hide what is happening in the country.

  16. @cacher … at least three other ‘witnesses’ were the three other males in the incident who would of course have a different version of the story.

    ‘Yeah, yeah, it wuz them newlyweds who attacked US … idnat right guys?’

  17. There must be some strange beasts walking around Cayman in human form nowadays…if these two stories have any semblance of truth to them.

    Well…there are some walking around here in England as well.

    I encountered one in my local pub on New Years night, myself having a quiet pint to usher in the new year.

    By the time it was all over, this beast in human form will know that he made a huge mistake…

    And he’s very lucky to be left breathing any at all.

    If one is prepared to negotiate for their own life and safety, maybe they simply don’t deserve to keep it.

    Those people pressing the disagree button on my comments need to think strongly about that…

    And fervently hope that they don’t ever end up threatening mine.

  18. Has nobody read the article properly? These are not tourists who have been ‘attacked’. Each of the three ‘victims’ are residents.

    More importantly, the police made an arrest in the Calico incident, as there was a clear crime that took place. No arrests were made relating to the ‘altercation’ at Cayman Reef Resort as it is not clear that a crime was committed. Imagine if every scuffle that took place during New Year’s Eve was reported in the newspaper as a crime! This is why there is no description of the three other people involved – nobody is looking for them as the police have already talked to them and written off the incident for what it was – NO CRIME!


    Editor’s note: For clarity regarding this comment, we have no evidence of a police statement indicating that ‘no crime was committed’ in this incident.

  19. What incredibly sad days – the Cayman premier is arrested and thrown out of office for deeds not yet fully quantified and thugs threatening women and beating a protective husband on New Year’s Eve?

    These events are outrageous when I think of heavenly Cayman. Having been to Cayman more than 40 times over the past 25 years, Caymanians must instantly reflect upon what they had and have – and what they want. They can sit quietly and watch the deterioration of Cayman society or set an example for others to see and learn by.

  20. Ms Lackey said. We saw a couple of people still milling about and we just figured they were part of that party. We just said ‘Happy New Year’ and I actually might have given one of them a hug … as you would think that would be appropriate on New Year’s.

    Appropriate in another country, place and culture maybe.

    In Cayman, you do not go around hugging strange men hanging around parties around that Royal Palms and surrounding condos area…they can easily take it as an invitation for more, shall we say…intimate…involvement.

    And anyone who believes that the 7-Mile Beach is not well known for laisons of such a nature hasn’t partied on the beach very much…or with the right people.

    When will these people learn to act with more common sense appropriate to their surrounding ?

    This was obviously an innocent but naive act that led to sexual harrassment…and then to physical assault.

    And the police could easily interpret the first action as a provocation or invitation of a sexual nature.

    This couple has told their side of the story but not with much conviction.

    The second incident was a robbery that turned into an assault and could easily end up in attempted murder charges, depending on how seriously the police view the attack.

    When will people wake up to the fact that Cayman is no longer the safe place they still wish it was and take the necessary precautions for their own safety ?

    I don’t blame the krav maga instructor for running down this criminal to retrieve her belongings but she must have realised the risk she was taking in doing so.

    IMO, both of these incidents could have been avoided by the victims with more prudent behaviour and actions.

  21. firery
    Well great for you being able to cripple armed gumen with your bare hands.
    But sadly most of us don’t have these skills or the strength to apply them.

    Hunter has it right when he suggests that the police go undercover and try to trap these animals.

    Plant tempting targets on the beach, in bar car parks and go undercover in jewellery stores.

    Catch them and throw them in jail forever.

    Police also need to be armed and learn how to shoot straight. (Not that easy under stress).

  22. I was thinking some punk took my bag and wanted to get it back, Ms Roberts said. I wasn’t thinking ‘psycho with weapon’.

    What kind or level of krav maga instructor are you in NOT thinking ‘psycho with a weapon’ when running down a man who has snatched your purse ?

    Obviously not a very experienced one.

    There are many hard, inanimate objects lying on the ground…they’re called stones.

    Next time you choose to run after someone, who’s mugged you, grab one…

    They’re quite handy when thrown accurately, actually…or used to strike someone attacking you with a weapon.

    Certainly would have stopped you getting stabbed up with a screwdriver.

  23. Well great for you being able to cripple armed gumen with your bare hands


    Where in these reports have you read anything about armed gunmen ?

    Or in my comments ?

    By their own admittance, in both cases, these victims were partly to blame for their predicaments.

    A person’s greatest self-defense tool is their brain; no amount of martial arts training or weaponry can compensate for stupid, unsafe behaviour and actions.

    Would you suggest that Cayman’s police had hunted down these perpetrators and shot them down out of hand before investigating exactly what had taken place ?

    Its people like you who give really good reasons to keep Cayman’s police generally unarmed…at least for now.

    And for your information, Cayman’s police have more firearms than you care to know about; they are only deployed to certain trained officers with discretion so as not to be indiscriminately used in unlawful police killings.

    And you can believe me when I tell you, I would never encourage anyone to challenge an armed gunman without one of their own.

    Your sense of justice and perception of the truth is indeed very warped, IMO.

  24. Over a decade ago I worked for a dive company on an island to the east of here. The boss would regularly visit a couple of the neighboring islands and buy out entire dive shops for a couple of cents on the dollar.

    The entire tourist industry on the adjacent islands had crashed and burned as a result of greedy politicians and unchecked criminals – Tourists just stopped going there as theft became an epidemic (and no, not violent crime, just petty holiday ruining wallets, phones and cameras). This was before the global downturn.

    Cayman seems oblivious to the changes in International Financial Services that seek to reduce the advantages gained from investing in Tax Havens.

    It seems equally oblivious to what happens in a tourist economy when those tourists see criminality or it’s effects. Stick an armed policeman on every corner and you are doing as much damage as the criminals… Overdo the policing and it no longer feels like paradise.

    We are equally in trouble in terms of the cruise ship industry – lack of infra-structure investment has already set Cayman as a sleepy backwater not worthy of inclusion on Cruise itineraries. See how Caymans’ already fragile budget stacks up if you scratch a couple of the cruise lines from the books.

    Tourists are fickle and will turn their back on Cayman unless we can provide a product that is safe, fun and good value.

    Anyone who ‘drops a dime’ on a criminal is actually helping to keep the economy alive and preventing government job losses.

  25. Once upon a time, victimology was a truly important contributor to criminology. In those already ancient times, victimology was not crybaby-chicanery or verbose nonsense for whining wimps, but a valuable tool to understand the extent to which a victim vicariously contributes to or precipitates crime. Its aim was not to blame the victim, but to design sound crime prevention strategies.

    As you can witness in the comments below, just addressing, merely insinuating of the possibility that the victims of these crimes were contributors to their ordeals, received vitriolic responses and many heaps of dislikes. This shouldn’t surprise anybody. Sadly, nowadays, victimology is built in function of this not too brave yet new world.

    Yet victim facilitation of the crime is a fact. Percentages varies in function of different jurisdictions and crime types, but overall, in homicides 20% of the persons who die are those that initially restore to force; in armed robberies, around 10% of the victims mismanage their belongings (as in showing off valuables, displaying a wallet packed with money, or being careless otherwise); in aggravated assaults, those that are the first to use force or use offensive actions are those that end badly injured; and in women’s rape, in circa 5% of the cases the woman first agrees to so far sexual relations, or invites the assault through gestures or approaches.

    This understanding is not blaming the victim. It’s simply explaining the mechanism of the crime with the aim of future prevention. Had the couple of the first incident not befriended riff raff and given hugs to shady strangers, the first crime would not occur. Had the lady of the second case properly assessed the scene of a crime to happen, she would flee the place even before her purse was snatched. Guilelessly, due to inexperience with crime perhaps, or maybe due to the hype of the New Year Day in the first case, or the peace expectation of the holidays in the second one, in both cases the victims put themselves in danger. That is an undeniable fact.

    Another undeniable fact is that the victims in both cases are residents, and hence not oblivious to the current scenario of crime in the rise in Grand Cayman.

    But the crimes happened, and now the victims require protection and retribution. Law enforcement agents need to find and punish the perpetrators. Prevention could not be achieved, so now it is the time for prosecution.

    Not willing to engage in further debates in this matter, just allow me to forecast a noticeable increase in crime. Political turmoil, due to many factors that should be discussed elsewhere, always yield crime. And in such scenario, crime increase is never casual, nor coincidental.

    So, in the view of our current dire reality, practice elemental prevention strategies. Those born and raised in big cities or criminalized communities have an internal wiring that naturally, almost as an inborn trait, allows them to foresee and prevent crime. As for those that have been blessed by living most of their lives in safe places, there is a need to become alert and learn how to prevent crime.

  26. Dennie

    The majority of people believe real violence is what they see in the movies…the good guy smacks the bad guy in the chops and he goes down, all clean and clinical.

    And some so-called self-defense/martial arts instructors perpetuate this myth with people who come to them for self-defense training, as well.

    It seems that its politically incorrect to acknowledge the realities of real violence in today’s society…so people create these fantasy scenarios and solutions…and pass them off on the unsuspecting public…

    Until the proverbial brown stuff hits the fan for real.

    The first incident in this article was NOT an initial violent attack by these three men…it was a situation initiated and compounded by the eventual victims…

    And if the story reported is to be entirely believed…which I don’t, not even for a minute…then they still did enough to save themselves from serious injury in the fight that ensued.

    In the second incident, Ms. Krav Maga also seemed to be unduly involved in her own circumstances, if the story is to be believed, as reported.

    In both cases, the amount of time and dialogue involved with the alleged perpretrators does not fit in with the pattern of unprovoked, unavoidable attacks.

    Anyone who has faced a real attack from a pumped-up, determined attacker will know that an effective defense must surpass the attackers intent and level of violence to be successful.

    Anyone who does not accept that reality survives a real attack through pure luck and good fortune…and nothing else.

  27. Gerardo

    These comments should be taken by the RCIPS, summarised and made a list into of recommended crime-prevention measures…

    And posted in every bar, nightclub, condo complex, commercial business…and made available to every home and citizen who requests a copy, in the Cayman Islands.

    And make sure you take out copyright rights to them…so that your brilliant ideas will not be made commercial use of, without you financialy benefitting from it.

    That is how highly I rate these comments as a strategy for crime prevention…

    In the Cayman Islands…and anywhere else, for that matter.

    Brilliant, brilliant dissertation, my friend.

  28. Firery,

    Thankfully none of the assailants were really determined to do more harm than they actually did, and thankfully the victims are alive to consider the views you have so very eloquently articulated. I hope they take your advice…

  29. Dear Firery,

    Thanks for your kind comments. I try my best when possible. After all, you, me, all us who care of this country need to contribute to the reestablishment of peace and order.

    This incident, these two crimes, while belong to the same crime trend the island faces, could and should be prevented had the victims used caution. That is not, I’m afraid, the case of most of the crime types currently happening here.

    I know with precision the unfortunate outcome that in the long term all this crime trend will have. Our reality is not promising, and sooner than later we will be facing big city true crime types in overwhelming amount.

    We started with minor issues and mild crime incidents. Due to their apparent harmless nature, they were left unattended. Such lack of attention created a framework of impunity that empowered criminals to be more brazen. By now, many outcasts living in the borders of society, perhaps not openly criminal still, know they can try and get ahead with many things, simply because few consequences are to be faced, and that if they are caught in the first place. Impunity is a major factor in crime.

    Another major factor is petty crime.

    Even for professionals on these issues, sometimes seems difficult to, even ideologically, link petty crime with the more pervasive crime types. At times, I have contacted the RCIPS, to report graffiti when it appears in the street. Have you paid attention to graffiti and, perhaps, noticed that it is slowly but surely increasing all over the island?

    Graffiti is a vandalism type with a proven connection to urban decay; dismal urban environments harbour and perpetuate crime. A decaying community, a place packed with graffiti, gives the appearance that nobody cares of it and hence of the wellbeing of the community. That everything goes, that all is allowed. Crime included.

    Crime prevention can be taught and promoted, but only when coupled with strong law enforcement could help to control crime. And the longer we wait, the more difficult things will become.

    A militarized scenario is not required in this stage of the problem. We don’t have drug cartel open wars or terrorist incidents. We have, yes, crime. And this crime could be still cornered and contained with efficient police practices. The RCIPS works wonderfully when they want to do so. Look at the outcome of the Kirk Freeport robbery at The Strand.

    Meanwhile we, citizens, need to prevent crime by avoiding placing ourselves in positions of utter vulnerability that openly invite an attack.

  30. firery

    Nice of you to give us advise from the UK. When were you last here?

    I realize of course that the attackers in this case were not armed with guns.
    Also that you do not claim to be able to take down armed gunmen with your bare hands.
    Just making a little fun of your attacks on this young lady who, while much more skilled than I at self defence, in not apparently in your league.

    Good for her for fighting back.

    I note other comments about how some people get killed because they dare to fight back when someone tries to rob or rape them. Better if we all become a nation of sheep, to be picked on by the wolves as they see fit, right?

    Again I say, time for some undercover police work and YES I am perfectly happy if this scum is locked up forever or ends up dead. Better if dead then we won’t all have to pay to keep these reptiles alive.

  31. Do you know what the first self-defense rule that any authentic instructor teaches their students in case of an armed robbery or mugging ?

    Especially if they, themselves, are unarmed ?

    Give them your stuff…and RUN…in the other direction…as fast as your feet will take you.

    Run-jutsu is the best jutsu of them all.

    Suppose this so-called krav maga instructor had been stabbed to death by this robber ?

    Would you be singing the same tune ?

    Or has given her own ill-advised instruction and training to others…who follows it and gets themselves killed.

    She will learn and grow from this experience…

    And act more prudently in the future.

    And if you do not get that that is the gist of my comments…

    You do not get it any at all.

    Its quite ok for you to laud her for her ill-advised actions…

    It wasn’t you who was being stabbed up, was it ?

    And you’ve probably never faced an angry, violent person intent on hurting you in your entire life…

    Have you ?

  32. And I completely agree with your other comments regarding under-cover enforcement and any detrimental consequences that should befall scum who would attack and rob innocent people…and worse.

    But none of that absolves a person from using their commonsense to keep themselves safe.

    Any type of martial arts or fighting skills should only be used or relied upon as a last resort, after all other options have been exhausted or denied.

    Back in 2006, a group of martial artists in Cayman conducted an all-day seminar in self-defense on behalf of the Business and Professional Womens Club which was very well attended and received but…

    Some of the stuff taught was highly questionable and in some cases, laughable.

    Eg…an instructor at one of the islands top martial arts schools was telling unskilled ladies that after escaping a rape attempt…

    She should turn back and make her attacker pay for attempting to rape her by attacking him/her in return.

    A sure recipe for getting a victim raped…and killed.

    My advice…and training scenario…

    Get him off you by whatever means necessary…

    And run for your life as fast as you can…

    Hollering and screaming for help as loudly as you can.

    Which scenario do you think would have a higher chance of success ?

  33. Gerardo Ochoa-Vargas

    You brought forward one excellent point that is a major indicator of a community in decline—Graffiti.

    Graffiti, the defacing of private or public property, is similar to a dog pissing on a fence post, tree or even your leg (and on occasion your car tire….).
    It’s an animal’s way of marking its territory.
    Being four legged, we accept this behaviour as natural and ignore it.

    Graffiti is the ‘Pissing’ behaviour of the two legged animal, and far from innocent.
    It’s a sign of gangstas marking their turf; blatantly and publicly to all.
    Not only is it a warning sign to other gangs but, as well, to the people living in these communities to show who is (potentially) in power.

    As a community, don’t accept or tolerate it whatsoever.
    Remove graffiti immediately by any means possible; wash it off, paint it over……
    It will reappear, guaranteed!
    But, astonishingly, over time it will stop.
    It does take perseverance though.
    It does work.
    That’s when pride is returned to a community and is a signal, to others, that people are willing to take a united stance against what they see as wrong.

    As for handling the real ‘CRAZY’ elements in your neighbourhood, insist/force the local police to handle the graffiti issue by having them physically remove it.
    It’s fighting crime at the most basic level… showing who is actually in charge.
    This is one way of getting them out of their cars and onto the streets.
    Police vs Gangstas….let’s see who can out-piss the other!

    On the other hand, as a preemptive strike to avert the above scenario, it’s best Not to ”Spare the rod and spoil that future ‘child/gangsta’ ”.
    Life lessons start at home.

  34. firery
    For the record I used to manage low income houses and was regularly threatened by dead-beat tenants, once with a loaded gun.

    Please re-read the original article. She DID hand over her money to the scumbag, he came after her anyway.

    I quote: He put the money into his pocket and he goes ‘and now you’re dead girl’ … and that’s when I noticed he had something in his hand. He started stabbing and stabbing and stabbing at me, she said.

    Shame she din’t put him down permanently when she had the chance.
    But as I said, good on her.

  35. Longtermresident

    We agree on much more than we disagree on.

    According to her story…she ran after him to retrieve her bag…and what happened, happened.

    I think we both admire her for her bravery, foolhardy though it might have been…by her own admittance.

    And, to be truthful, it would be a natural reaction for someone like her…she’s thinking, ‘oh, this punk stole my bag, I can take him any day of the week…so, let’s go get back my bag !’

    And, like we’ve both said, she should have taken him out much sooner with those throat strikes.

    In all event, I’m happy that she wasn’t seriously or permanently injured.

    Next time, grab one of them ‘ground apples’ lying around for insurance before chasing after armed robbers, is what I say…ha ha ha !


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